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Hills
Voluntary Aid
Detachment
Part
Two
Interviewees:
Edithe Pigott OAM, born 1939
and Eileen
Bell, born 1933
Interviewer: Frank Heimans,
for
Baulkham Hills Shire Council
Date of Interview: 22 Jan, 2008
Transcription: Glenys Murray, Feb 2008 |
What can either of you tell me about the FESPIC Games in 1977?
Well the
FESPIC Games were held in Australia in 1977. The word FESPIC means Far
Eastern and South Pacific games for the disabled. They’re held every four
years and they’re held in a South Pacific country. So seventy seven was
Australia’s turn there’s a lot of preparation. So in 1976 I was approached
by the Holroyd Council. Red Cross had been involved in some disabled games
for Holroyd in earlier years. I was approached by them to see if I’d be
interested in joining the organising committee for these games and if
I could perhaps see a role that the VA’s could play in the games. I used
to go to all these meetings. For a whole twelve months we went to meetings.
Suddenly it became very apparent that not only was there a role that the
VA’s were going to play. It was probably, with the exception of the actual
activities of the games themselves, the major role for the games. Which
meant that we had to set up the village which they chose the Masonic School
here in Baulkham Hills as the village. We had to look after the accommodation,
the catering the health needs. Every single thing that revolved around
keeping people in the village, the only drawback was that the Masonic
School hadn’t been used for years and years and years that’s quite some
years. It was derelict and in a state of disrepair. We had to then turn
around and make this habitable for the games the following year. Now we
were very fortunate that we had our people who worked tremendously hard.
When you
think of it we didn’t only have to look after food and all those sorts
of things. We had to actually get all the furniture. We had to get curtains
for the windows we had to get the Council to repair the buildings. Some
of the floors if you walked on them you fell through them they were rotten.
We had to clean out all the old furniture. They had the biggest auction
of old furniture that you could imagine. I had to organise the bedding
from the army they provided the beds, the mattresses, the pillows. We
had to get all of the linen. We had to turn little children’s toilets
into usable toilets for disabled people. Which meant with the help of
some very big corporations we were able to build toilet blocks on either
side of all the dormitory buildings. We had to work out how many people
were going to be in each dormitory, what their needs were. What their
special needs were because we had paraplegics, quadriplegics, blind, amputee
competitors.
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FESPIC Games competitors in the former Masonic School Dining Room
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There were
four hundred and twelve of these competitors from twenty one countries.
Plus their medical teams, plus their management teams and they all had
to be accommodated. The only people that weren’t accommodated were the
top officials who were accommodated in Parramatta. It presented itself
that it was much bigger than what Holroyd Council could manage. Even though
Baulkham Hills had lent this facility here, so we had to get Baulkham
Hills Shire Council involved and we had to get Parramatta Council involved.
So Dr. John
Grant who was the head of the spinal unit of Royal North Shore Hospital
he was the chairman of the games and the organising committee went from
there. So with a lot of support and a lot of encouragement and a lot of
begging, borrowing and stealing of everything we managed to get the games
village ready. We had seventy seven organisations that helped us. That included
all the Red Cross Branches in the metropolitan area. It included all the
service clubs in this area it included the scouts, the senior scouts and
the girl guides. The VA’s were just absolutely wonderful because they were
each given the responsibility of looking after the dormitories where people
were going to be accommodated. It was their responsibility to be in charge
of that dormitory and make sure that those people were well cared for. The
Red Cross Branches helped in the kitchen with the preparation of food. I
had to get chefs in because no one told me that when you have twenty one
different Asian countries you’ve also got to have about twenty seven different
varieties of rice, never mind about any other dishes that they eat.
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FESPIC Games volunteers relax in the former Masonic School Dining
Room 1977
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So the army
were kind enough to loan me two chefs and then we went to the Foundation
for the Disabled and they had their own chef. They closed that down and
brought their people. We had to reinstate a kitchen that hadn’t been used
since you couldn’t believe. It had a boiler that hadn’t worked for I don’t
know how many years. So they had to get that. We had to set up a place
to repair wheel chairs we had to set up a pharmacy we had to set up a
beauty shop we had to set up a post office. We had to do all of these
things and then on top of that we were told our other responsibility would
be to provide huge big barbeques for two of the nights to accommodate
everybody. Thousands of people as well as the people that had helped us
were invited to the barbeque. Then I had to put on a formal luncheon for
the special guests one day. Anyway we did it. We had one thousand and
nineteen volunteers and we did tens of thousands of voluntary hours. What
we did my deputy who was Jean Kirken(?) at the time. We rostered all our
VA’s and we had three shift rosters and that way they didn’t get tired
but I had to sleep at the village for three weeks. So my husband joined
as a volunteer he came over and even my children came over. They had to
come there to see me if they wanted to. It was good but it was also interesting
because it made me realise that people who have disabilities are just
as ambitious, just as capable and able to achieve things as able bodied
people.
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Mayor Bernie Mullane with FESPIC Games competitors including those
who slept at Cropley House 1977
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It was from then on that my respect for disabled people and particularly
disabled athletes was founded. I have respected them ever since. The things
they used to do, there was one little fellow called… Eileen, what was
his name, the little Indian fellow that was a double amputee?
Eileen: I
can’t remember his name but I remember who you mean.
Edithe: He
was a taxi driver who had been involved in a rail crossing accident where
his cab was hit by a train and he lost both his legs. He didn’t have artificial
legs he had little pads on the end of his knees so he was only about four
foot. He used to always want his photograph taken with me. I had to always
hold my hand out so he could stand underneath it. He wanted to show people
that he could do it. The one thing about him, it’s rather hilly over there
at the Masonic Schools and it must have been really heavy weather for
him to get up some of those hills. But he said he had an advantage because
to get down he used to roll himself in a ball and roll down the hill.
To see the way they coped. We had a contingent from Burma there were about
fifteen of them that came from Burma. They were all double amputees. I
used to have to do the rounds every night. They were in a place called
Cropley House upstairs at Cropley House. No they were downstairs and the
single amputees were upstairs. Of a night time when I’d go to do my rounds
to make sure everything was alright before we locked up for the night.
I can always remember the picture that I will carry always. These people
in their little beds with two little feet at the end of each bed, double
amputees you know they’re just wonderful, wonderful stories.
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Mayor Bernie Mullane and Fred Caterson unveil plaque at Cropley
House during FESPIC Games 1977
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Eileen, what memories do you have of the games?
Just working
very, very hard my greatest regret was that I never had the time to go
to one of the venues to see how they performed. There was such a lot to
do. I mean not just one thing. This would come up and that would come
up and you’d run and go and fix that and then go and fix that. I think
my greatest memory was when we started up, you know getting the beds into
shape and all the hospital beds I think my back was bent over ever after
that. Thank goodness I lived just down the road from where the Baulkham
Heights is so my family also saw less of me than they normally did. Finishing
your shift and coming home and then sitting down and getting your feet
up was the greatest thing. But it was a tremendous experience. We’d had
lessons about assisting blind people and there was a very young boy that
I do remember. Why I forgot this day I don’t know. I’d been having my
lunch with him his food was arranged in the way they do it. When it was
finished I was taking him back to his dormitory and I took his arm. That’s
something you don’t do you let them take your arm and of course I thought
“oh golly I’d forgotten that”.
He just
put his arm on my arm and off we toddled to his dormitory. There was so
many things everybody was so enthusiastic and so involved. We met so many
volunteers. People from Baulkham Hills and Castle Hill who’d come in and
help and do everything. In fact it was years afterwards you’d see somebody
in the street and you’d know their face. All they had to do was say FESPIC
and you knew that they had been one of the volunteers.
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FESPIC Games Indian team on last day outside former Masonic School
Dining Rooms and Assembly Hall 1977
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I
believe that you had a story to tell about the Bull and Bush Hotel the
athletes there?
Eileen: I
never made those sort of parties.
Edithe: No
I have a story. One night because we used to bed them all down. They had
socialising at the place, you know, we had a special room for them and
we had a bar that was open for a certain period of time but there were
restrictions because they were sports people and they had to get up to
participate. It wasn’t sort of just open house. One night I was just about
to close everything up and the phone in the office rang. When I answered
the phone it was Castle Hill police. They said “can we speak to the person
in charge of the village please”? I said “well its Edithe Pigott speaking”
and he said “I’m afraid you’ve got a problem”. I said “what sort of a
problem do you know about that I don’t know about”. He said “well I’ve
had a call from the Bull and Bush Hotel” and he said “I believe that some
of you competitors have been up in the local hotel”. Because they were
only supposed to go with escorts in buses. He said “the concern is that
they are now on their way home’. I said “but they shouldn’t even be out”.
He said “no but the real concern is that they’re people in wheel chairs
and the people who are pushing them are blind!”
He said
“do you think you could organise to collect them?" I said “oh I can’t
believe this”. So I had to wake up the bus driver get him to go up and
sure enough halfway along Seven Hills Road singing at the top of their
heads, happy as anything. Were about nine of them in wheel chairs being
pushed by their blind companions. They were saying “left, left mate, don’t
go over the gutter, left do this”. That was just one of the little stories
there were many. I could write a book about what happened.
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Alan Cadman with competitors at FESPIC Games held at Balcombe Heights
1977
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Were
they inebriated?
Not quite,
because they knew that if they were competing the next day they were only
allowed to have a certain quantity. But I think that we could say that
they had more than they were allowed and they slept very well that night.
But we made sure that we woke them up very early the next morning. They
competed there was wheel chair basketball there was archery there was
all the sports that you would associate with the Olympic Disabled Games.
All those sports were involved and some of it was quite rigorous. They
had to train very, very hard. They were very competitive I have to say
that, very competitive. They didn’t mind knocking each other over or out
of their wheel chairs either.
Can either of you tell me a little bit about what the other Red Cross
Detachments were doing? The ones say at Dural or Castle Hill or West Pennant
Hills? Were they doing similar work to what you were doing?
No because
they weren’t Detachments they were Branches. We were the only Detachment
in the Baulkham Hills Shire. The others were Branches and the Branches
raise money. That’s their role. They raise money and support Red Cross
by either…..We supported Red Cross Calling but they support Red Cross
Calling, they support appeals and they put on functions to raise money
and that’s their primary purpose. Of course the social interaction that
they get through being with each other and attending conferences and all
those sort of things. The Voluntary Aid Detachment were very different.
We were the trained uniformed personnel who go out and work in the field.
Doing first aid and assisting in times of disaster. Now the role of a
Branch has changed somewhat and Branches now do train for what they call
emergency services. Which is disaster work and they do some of the similar
roles that we did all those years ago. With registration of disaster victims
and they also fill in paper work and do things like that. In the time
we established in 1975 when we first did this we were the only one in
this area. The next closest Detachment was Parramatta.
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Linda McBurney, long time Red Cross Baulkham Hills member at Hills
VAD meeting 1980s
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Thanks
for clearing that up, that’s great. So the Branches we mentioned are they
still operating?
Well a lot
of them have closed simply because the members of the Branches are so
old. There is still a very vital and very, very good Branch going at Castle
Hill. They raise a tremendous amount of money and they are one of the
biggest fund raisers in NSW. They’re very up to date they do everything
on computer they have adapted with change. They have younger office bearers.
You have attended that Branch haven’t you Eileen?
Oh yes I’ve
been to a couple of their meetings. There members are younger. When we
talk about the Branch you’ve got to realise Branch members before used
to be fairly old. Who weren’t VA’s and weren’t as young as the VA's. But
Castle Hill Branch are younger. I mean those are members who in other
words didn’t want to go out and put on a uniform and do first aid. They’re
in their forties, fifties and sixties and they’re doing a fantastic job.
I sit down every year end and send off a letter of congratulations to
the president to say what a tremendous job they’ve done in the year. They
do all sorts of things. Their social outings always fundraising. They
go on bus rides which are a fund raiser they have dress shows, mannequin
parades and things like that. Of course come Christmas time they sell
all Red Cross products. Christmas cards, tea towels and what have you.
They really raise a tremendous amount of money. They’re a good Branch,
they’re a fantastic Branch.
Now
Edithe, you are of course the Chairman of the Red Cross organisation…..?
I was I gave
it up four years ago.
Four
years ago? Now when did the actual Baulkham Hills Branch of the VAD close?
You mean
the Hills District?
Yeah
the Hills District?
This one
it closed in 2005. So it hasn’t been closed for all that long.
Just as a general question, you started with seven people that came to
that very first meeting?
Yeah.
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Members of Hills Voluntary Aid Detachment with special award 1979
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What
did the membership come to at its peak?
At its peak
we had ninety including members and associates but it more or less tapered
down to about sixty for a long time. Then the last years it went from
twenty five to about…..
Eileen:
Thirty five was about and then as you say it started… Women went back
to work and there were transfers and things like that. To get young people
to come in and learn first aid and do first aid duties very, very difficult.
Edithe: And
of course you see the other thing that we had to do. We all had to train
up ourselves to be instructors. We had to do every course that came along.
Not only do that you then had to do the training to be an instructor.
So you could train your own people. I used to love first aid, I used to
love teaching.
Eileen: So
did I
Edithe:
Eileen was good too. I used to like to demonstrate at first aid classes.
But what was so funny most of the things in the first aid book I’ve had
go wrong my self. It was always the thing in the class they’d say “oh
she wouldn’t have had this one”. I can remember the one we came to one
night and they said “oh we were doing venomous spider bites and they said
“oh this is one that she won’t have had this one” and I said “want to
bet, I’ve been bitten by a Red back” I had to go through all the thing
and tell them. But these were the things that I think what we tried to
do and why we were so successful with our teaching. Because I mean I’d
been to many boring classes I can tell you over the years. We used to
try to make it come alive for them. We used to demonstrate, we used to
get them involved. If you can tell a few funny stories along the way.
I mean I can’t help that, I can’t just be straight laced you know I’m
not like that. If you can make it interesting you’ll bring them. Half
the time we’d get people so interested that that want to come and join
the VA’S. We’d teach the public and they’d say “well if you have this
much fun we’re coming to join you”. That’s what we wanted and that’s how
we recruited.
Eileen: Most
of our members came from first aid courses.
Edithe: So
it was good I mean it was just the way we acted. We were a good group.
Well
that’s wonderful. I think I’ve got enough material now. I’m running out
of questions. Is there anything you want to add as a final comment anyone?
Eileen: Oh
yes I’d just like to remember that we won the shield a couple of times
for Red Cross Calling, our door knock appeal. We were hard working especially
in the Detachment. Yes a couple of times we won cups. First aid cups.
Edithe: Efficiency
Eileen: Oh
yes we were good in our day.
Thank
you both very much for the interview.
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